Do You Need an Automotive Education?

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6 years 5 months ago #64839 by Haley
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My experience as a 21 year old women;

I need to work harder and smarter than anyone, and also portray a laid back, agreeable persona, in order to get and sustain and progress in a job.

Education is a big part of that.

Selling my soul, giving up basic employee rights, and basic manipulation, has also worked a treat for getting my foot in the door though.

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6 years 5 months ago #64873 by EricTheCarGuy
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Haley wrote: My experience as a 21 year old women;

I need to work harder and smarter than anyone, and also portray a laid back, agreeable persona, in order to get and sustain and progress in a job.

Education is a big part of that.

Selling my soul, giving up basic employee rights, and basic manipulation, has also worked a treat for getting my foot in the door though.

:)


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6 years 5 months ago #65035 by study4ase
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I think too, that maybe the term "automotive education" is too broad. If you don't go to school, and just start at the bottom at a shop, you will still be educated every day you are there. And at many shops, they will pay to send you to training classes (education). SnapOn or MAC may send someone to your shop and educate you on how to use their latest scan tool. There is plenty of education to be had while working within a auto shop.

So the question: Do you need an automotive education? The answer is YES. But you do not necessarily need to go get a degree. Although that may make it easier to get a job.

With or without an education, you will start at the bottom anywhere you go. It is up to the young tech ,to demonstrate their knowledge and skills, and willingness to learn and grow, while they are at that shop. And maybe after some time and that shop you can move to another and you wont be at the bottom there.

You will learn so much working at a shop, it is unreal. As an un-experienced tech, you will probably learn 5-10 new things every single day. And even with more experience, you will probably still learn something new everyday. With so many new cars, and new problems to fix, there is always something to learn. Not to mention with resources like IATN and Direct Hit, you can learn tons of stuff from other techs all over the US.
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6 years 5 months ago #65036 by USMC0331
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I sent this to Eric on Twitter, but thought I'd post here as well.

What are the thoughts of taking an online course from a place like Penn Foster ( www.pennfoster.edu/programs-and-degrees/...-career-diploma.aspx ) while I'm apprenticing in a shop?

I want to learn and get my ASE certs but can't make regular school hours work for me at this time.

Good option or just a waste of time/money?

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6 years 5 months ago #65038 by study4ase
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This is just my opinion, not GOLD, or anything.

Taking an online course may handicap you even more. You really need hands on experience. I am surprised there are no night classes at a community college in your area? Most colleges offer this in degree programs like automotive.

You can learn a lot on the internet for free, some in my opinion, paying for an automotive education online may not be an economical choice. Maybe if you could take the core subjects online (if necessary), and the automotive subjects at a college... would that be possible in your situation? Maybe worth looking in to at least.
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6 years 5 months ago #65039 by USMC0331
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Here's the situation I'm in:

I'm a full time youth pastor & church internship director—I work Tues-Friday (Wednesday nights) and all day Sunday. I have Saturday & Monday off. I already have a BA degree.

I love my job and am looking to get into auto repair as a second income/way to start a new outreach ministry at our church.

I can't take daytime, night or weekend classes.

I'd be gaining hands-on experience at the shop I'm apprenticing at one day a week (Mondays) and taking the classes online to gain book knowledge to pass ASE exams, etc.

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6 years 5 months ago #65040 by Wrench Turner
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I think this is a good summary of the argument thus far, and is a statement that I agree with:

The answer is YES. But you do not necessarily need to go get a degree. Although that may make it easier to get a job


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6 years 5 months ago #65045 by study4ase
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That's a tough situation. A very cool idea to employ at your church though..

In that case, in your situation, it might be beneficial. If you haven't already, check for reviews on the school, specifically for the auto classes.

And how expensive is the school? This might be a deal breaker. If your goal is to just start a program at the church, is an automotive degree really necessary? I don't know, just asking.

If the cost is affordable, and the education is good, maybe take some classes. Maybe focus on the ones you know the least amount in. If you can pick and choose what classes you want, rather than going through the whole program.

And of course pray about it. God should tell you what he wants you to do, or what is right in your situation.
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6 years 5 months ago #65398 by EricTheCarGuy
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6 years 5 months ago #65413 by georgelv1999
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After watching your RE video I think I get what you're saying. I can see how a person that went to school is more "valuable" to a dealership because there are little things that someone who didn't go to doesn't know. It's a liability issue with the dealership. With the degree they hope that the degree taught you what you need to know in order to do the job right, fast and efficient.


Also, don't know where to post this so here it goes: I like watching your older videos, but I can see the difference between the older videos and newer videos in the sense that you seem kinda down in the older videos. You seem stressed and not very happy. The newer videos you seem like yourself. I can understand why, after all the mess you were going through. I'm glad ETCG is doing so good for you man, you seem like a real nice guy and in hindsight maybe it was a blessing in disguise.

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