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    Alex OrndorffAlex Orndorff
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      So I’ve got me a 2002 Buick Park Avenue Ultra 3.8L Supercharged. It has the premium 9 speaker with factory amplifier set up. So, issue is, my right side door speaker (speaker not the tweeter) is pulsating only with the key off engine off. It seems to do it sometimes. And only does it with an aftermarket radio. Now my car was recently broken into and had everything stolen so I’ve changed radios quite a bit. Stock radio, everything is fine. They stole a Kenwood double din I had and it did the same thing. I thought maybe the radio was bad. Then I put in another aftermarket radio and the problem persists. I had changed the wiring harness because they cut up my old one, & the radio is brand new. So I’ve canceled out the radio and harness already. Now this car has the factory amp, if the solder got hot or something can something be shorting out internally? I plan to start get into this Friday, im just waiting to get some electrical diagnosing tools together. I’m typically good with electrical stuff. But I’m stumped on this. It works fine with stock, only acts up with aftermarket head unit. & only the key off. & it’s been killing my car every day causing me to jump it every morning which is becoming a pain. Any ideas or anyone had a similar problem? I don’t have a system or anything everything is stock besides the head unit. Also, when I play with the stock radio harness and instrument cluster harness, I get white noise from all of my speakers. Very very weird. I’ve talked to a buddy and he thinks I may have a bad ground. But if anybody else had a similar issue, some advice would be nice! Thanks in advance!

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    • #628158
      ErinErin
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        Factory amp you say?

        It sounds like you know your stuff with car audio. You should know then that pretty much any stock stereo equipment just bites and tends to act stupid. If the speakers, harnesses, and dash unit are changed but that factory amp is original and stock, there lies the problem.

        Even if it is a good brand name for factory stereo stuff, it is probably the lower end. I have a Bose system in my Acura which is stock and let’s just say when funds permit, that crap is getting ripped out.

        #628160
        Alex OrndorffAlex Orndorff
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          I didn’t change the speakers though nor the stock radio harness. I changed the aftermarket radio harness that plugs into the stock one. The only thing aftermarket is the headunit. & if the amp was bad, you would figure that typically it would be more than one speaker that’s acting up. That’s why I asked if it was possible. I’m not saying I’m an expert. But with school and a bit of experience under my belt, im not dumb founded when it comes to electrical not car audio. The basics at least.

          #628165
          ErinErin
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            One thing – sorry your car was broken into. Had that happen before and damn does it feel violating. Had $1,000 worth of stuff ripped from a lesabre I used to drive.

            It might be possible that the aftermarkets are feeding the factory amp more power than it wants?
            With one amp channel on any amp acting stupid –
            Keep in mind that with any audio amplifier that has more than one channel, each channel is going to have it’s own power transistor (typically a MOSFET).
            Therefore, it is very possible for only one speaker/channel to act up.

            Of course you should first check ALL wiring and especially connections first.

            One thing – when you turn the key on/engine off and play the stereo – what happens in that channel at various volumes? Does the pulsating go away after a certain volume?

            #628167
            Alex OrndorffAlex Orndorff
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              Yeah man it really sucks but thanks. They stole my radio, amp, subs, & all my tools. I’m the idiot who left them in his car. But it was over $1000 in just the tools alone. but anyways, no as soon as you turn the key on/engine off, it stops. As soon as the radio gets power again, it goes away. When the radio is getting no power is the only time it pulsates. Other than that, it’s normal. I probably wouldn’t have noticed if my car wasn’t dying every night. I have a video, I was a bit cranky this morning so ignore me if I sound like I have an attitude lol.

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              Alex OrndorffAlex Orndorff
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                I cant upload it here so I put it on YouTube.

                #628267
                ErinErin
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                  Well, the best I can come up with is maybe the amp is compatible with only certain GM stock radios. OR, maybe a wire is crossed somewhere in the connections? That pulse sounds like some kind of signal for something. Like maybe something for the alarm system or to retract a power antenna. TBH I am not sure. Just REALLY check the connections at the harness in the dash.

                  [quote=”Alex0330″ post=115875]I was a bit cranky this morning so ignore me if I sound like I have an attitude lol.[/quote]

                  Oh if only you could have heard the things I was saying today when I had to do some EGR passage work on my engine today. :angry: The devil blushed a few times. I smoked a whole pack of 120’s, at the same time!

                  #628300
                  Alex OrndorffAlex Orndorff
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                    Yeah I’ve checked the connections and can’t find anything in the work I’ve done. I’m gonna pull off the door panel friday and check if it’s getting power when the cars off. I would assume that’s why it pulsates. But I’m gonna get a test light too and check if I have a short to ground somewhere and go from there. I’ve got a plan, I just don’t know where to start. Lol. But you would figure if the amp wasn’t compatible then somewhere on the Internet i can find SOMETHING. But I cant. I’ve got alldata and checked tsbs looked at wiring diagrams and it seems the problem can only be the amp or a short to the speaker after the amp. & btw what engine and kind of car was it? Lol I’ve had those days before too

                    #629435
                    ErinErin
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                      The engine was my Acura CL 3.0
                      The exhaust gas passages tend to get clogged up and it is just a PITA basically. Especially when a stud stripped out and I had to stop and deal with THAT crap. It was about as fun as cleaning dog poop out of shoe treads.
                      But, the CEL no longer stays lit.

                      So what did you come up with for that pulsating?

                      #629444
                      Alex OrndorffAlex Orndorff
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                        Well, unfortunately, nothing. Had the whole car torn apart. Checked all the grounds. Checked all connections and wiring. Everything seemed okay. EVERYTIME I was trying to check power and ground on a speaker while it was pulsating the power probe wa pulsating with it. Lol. I imagine it’s because there’s a speaker inside of it. But I tried for hours and I couldn’t find anything. Then I disconnected the negative battery and put a light bulb in series with the ground ( I didn’t have a test light) and it lit pretty bright. I pulled every fuse, nothing. I cannot figure it out.

                        #629446
                        Alex OrndorffAlex Orndorff
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                          I did an amperage draw test though with a meter and draw definetely goes down when I pull the radio fuse. (Amplifier has its own fuse) so im not sure. I had to call it a day because I was getting frustrated and my uncle wanted help working on his semi getting a fan clutch out.

                          #635011
                          BlackenZaibBlackenZaib
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                            hmm. that is a strange thing. I had my car broken into as well it was 4 years ago. TWICE in 2 days nonetheless. Anyways one thing you can try is just unplug the speaker? Even if there is a problem generally if you take the load away the problem doesn’t happen. It does sound like a AMP issue though. Behind the passenger front seat is the wiring harness for the amp. Water tends to get in there and stand in the floor pan. There is a orange wire in the harness that splits into two. that can get badly coroded. The result usualy is no sound at all however its a place to look.

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